Comments on: Slayer: Some compare to other brands! http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/ Sat, 4 Feb 2012 02:42:55 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: iPhone5 http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/comment-page-1/#comment-818 iPhone5 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:25:43 +0000 http://www.slayerespresso.com/?p=657#comment-818 I’m really impressed along together with your writing abilities effectively with the structure in your weblog. Is that this a paid subject matter or did you modify it your self? Either way stay up the nice quality writing, it truly is uncommon to look an excellent weblog like this 1 nowadays. I’m really impressed along together with your writing abilities effectively with the structure in your weblog. Is that this a paid subject matter or did you modify it your self? Either way stay up the nice quality writing, it truly is uncommon to look an excellent weblog like this 1 nowadays.

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]]> By: Diaco http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/comment-page-1/#comment-755 Diaco Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:10:50 +0000 http://www.slayerespresso.com/?p=657#comment-755 Eric I have been trying to decipher the difference in coffee quality between cafes here in Melbourne Australia that use Synesso, LM or the Slayer. When I speak to the baristas, all of them swear by whichever machine they are using. Fortunately in Melbourne there are many many cafes that use these three brands of machines, and most invest time in either roasting their own blends/single origin coffees or have it sourced from reputable suppliers. In all honesty, I think it really comes down to the experience of the barista, the barista's experience with the actual machine, how busy the barista is when serving you, and the particular beans used that determines the quality of the cup. Unless the three brands are put through a scientific test (ie, fix all other variables like bean, barista, time, and test each machine, then repeat over and over, and with different baristas), I doubt that you can claim that the Slayer makes better coffee than the others. That said, I am willing to be proven wrong. Eric

I have been trying to decipher the difference in coffee quality between cafes here in Melbourne Australia that use Synesso, LM or the Slayer. When I speak to the baristas, all of them swear by whichever machine they are using. Fortunately in Melbourne there are many many cafes that use these three brands of machines, and most invest time in either roasting their own blends/single origin coffees or have it sourced from reputable suppliers.

In all honesty, I think it really comes down to the experience of the barista, the barista’s experience with the actual machine, how busy the barista is when serving you, and the particular beans used that determines the quality of the cup. Unless the three brands are put through a scientific test (ie, fix all other variables like bean, barista, time, and test each machine, then repeat over and over, and with different baristas), I doubt that you can claim that the Slayer makes better coffee than the others. That said, I am willing to be proven wrong.

]]> By: lee budz http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/comment-page-1/#comment-662 lee budz Mon, 03 May 2010 16:26:01 +0000 http://www.slayerespresso.com/?p=657#comment-662 how can i see/buy 1 in scandanavia/eu how can i see/buy 1 in scandanavia/eu

]]> By: Shane http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/comment-page-1/#comment-565 Shane Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:15:22 +0000 http://www.slayerespresso.com/?p=657#comment-565 To David from Aus: I completely agree with you on the 100 people down under who could actualise this machines potential, I consider myself determined enough to earn one of those centi-grades. But I have to say that (in aus, can't speak for the rest of the world) that is due to lack of passion and staff training in the cafe industry! There's only a handful of places I would pay for coffee, otherwise I will make my own. The good cafes are those whose staff are trained to within an inch of their lives. This means a BIG opportunity for any of those 100 people to lift the quality bar. In the end a business is all about the skills of the staff. Train them well and succeed and profit. It's not the machine that's the variable, it's the management of the baristi's skills! PS.. if the slayer is less choked with gadgetry does that mean it's cheaper than Synesso or LM ..? ;-) To David from Aus:
I completely agree with you on the 100 people down under who could actualise this machines potential, I consider myself determined enough to earn one of those centi-grades.
But I have to say that (in aus, can’t speak for the rest of the world) that is due to lack of passion and staff training in the cafe industry! There’s only a handful of places I would pay for coffee, otherwise I will make my own.
The good cafes are those whose staff are trained to within an inch of their lives. This means a BIG opportunity for any of those 100 people to lift the quality bar. In the end a business is all about the skills of the staff. Train them well and succeed and profit. It’s not the machine that’s the variable, it’s the management of the baristi’s skills!
PS.. if the slayer is less choked with gadgetry does that mean it’s cheaper than Synesso or LM ..? ;-)

]]> By: schnicker http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/comment-page-1/#comment-522 schnicker Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:26:04 +0000 http://www.slayerespresso.com/?p=657#comment-522 hi eric, there are so many steps left to make the world a better coffee-place! or at least to "lift the avarage quality of knowledge" about coffee... your little machine (and i mean this in a respectfull way) can probably be a wider step towards above mentioned goal than so many of the commercial activities arround the hip coffee-scene in the past years. it is obvious what you guys intented by creating slayer. go ahead! arsen (germany) hi eric,

there are so many steps left to make the world a better coffee-place! or at least to “lift the avarage quality of knowledge” about coffee…
your little machine (and i mean this in a respectfull way) can probably be a wider step towards above mentioned goal than so many of the commercial activities arround the hip coffee-scene in the past years.
it is obvious what you guys intented by creating slayer. go ahead!

arsen (germany)

]]> By: David http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/comment-page-1/#comment-513 David Tue, 05 May 2009 04:35:14 +0000 http://www.slayerespresso.com/?p=657#comment-513 I can certainly appreciate the minimalist approach in electronics when building the Slayer, but what is wrong with automation and computerisation? I can probably only pick 100 or so people in Australia that will probably be able to work on this machine and be able to pull great shots out of it. For the rest of the coffee making population, just another variable to bugger the whole thing up. I can certainly appreciate the minimalist approach in electronics when building the Slayer, but what is wrong with automation and computerisation? I can probably only pick 100 or so people in Australia that will probably be able to work on this machine and be able to pull great shots out of it. For the rest of the coffee making population, just another variable to bugger the whole thing up.

]]> By: hung nguyen http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/comment-page-1/#comment-512 hung nguyen Tue, 05 May 2009 02:47:27 +0000 http://www.slayerespresso.com/?p=657#comment-512 Hi Eric, I love "the best result in the cup". We will have no more steps to step to heaven. it is right there in the cup. I like your ideas and thoughts, and look forward to seeing it in many coffee houses. Hung (vietnam) Hi Eric,

I love “the best result in the cup”. We will have no more steps to step to heaven. it is right there in the cup.
I like your ideas and thoughts, and look forward to seeing it in many coffee houses.

Hung (vietnam)

]]> By: Eric Perkunder http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/comment-page-1/#comment-510 Eric Perkunder Mon, 04 May 2009 15:28:46 +0000 http://www.slayerespresso.com/?p=657#comment-510 Hi Luca, Thanks for your comments. I appreciate your concern. This blog is intended to be an open and honest opportunity to share thoughts about coffee, coffee culture, and coffee equipment. This exchange of course is always meant to be courteous and thoughtful. . . as well as truthful. My opinions are just that, my opinions. However, they are based on years of developing equipment (including the very brands of equipment, I discuss here) and hopefully they can offer insight and instill a healthy curiosity about this sometimes confusing segment. Since the post was meant to address the large numbers of "how is it different" comments concerning Slayer and other products, it would be extremely difficult or even impossible to address this without mentioning names. I hope you can take heart in the fact that these opinions are put in writing and attributed openly to a identifiable human being. As far as sharing the "inner workings" of Slayer at SCAA--our objective at the show was to allow anyone who wanted to brew their own coffee on an ACTUAL machine to get the chance to do so. Atlanta was about offering a hands on experience and seeing, hearing and tasting the responses. Sorry if you didn't like the coffee being served. However, I am not surprised because coffee is a highly personalized experience. But there were literally dozens of coffees from roasters across America and the world being served continuously over three days. I wish you had had a chance to sample the shots Gwilym and others were pulling--they were amazing, in my opinion. Warm regards, Eric Hi Luca,

Thanks for your comments. I appreciate your concern. This blog is intended to be an open and honest opportunity to share thoughts about coffee, coffee culture, and coffee equipment. This exchange of course is always meant to be courteous and thoughtful. . . as well as truthful. My opinions are just that, my opinions. However, they are based on years of developing equipment (including the very brands of equipment, I discuss here) and hopefully they can offer insight and instill a healthy curiosity about this sometimes confusing segment. Since the post was meant to address the large numbers of “how is it different” comments concerning Slayer and other products, it would be extremely difficult or even impossible to address this without mentioning names. I hope you can take heart in the fact that these opinions are put in writing and attributed openly to a identifiable human being.

As far as sharing the “inner workings” of Slayer at SCAA–our objective at the show was to allow anyone who wanted to brew their own coffee on an ACTUAL machine to get the chance to do so. Atlanta was about offering a hands on experience and seeing, hearing and tasting the responses. Sorry if you didn’t like the coffee being served. However, I am not surprised because coffee is a highly personalized experience. But there were literally dozens of coffees from roasters across America and the world being served continuously over three days. I wish you had had a chance to sample the shots Gwilym and others were pulling–they were amazing, in my opinion.

Warm regards,

Eric

]]> By: Ralf http://www.slayerespresso.com/2009/05/01/slayer-compared-to-other-brands/comment-page-1/#comment-509 Ralf Mon, 04 May 2009 15:23:18 +0000 http://www.slayerespresso.com/?p=657#comment-509 Hi, in "Slayer - Some compare to other brands" Eric did say every thing, what I personal want for the perfect machine. This means for me, as simple as possible, less electronic, no gadgets and a machine as near as possible to a lever machine. (but with the positive characteristic of a pump driven machine ) The main target is the result in the cup done by a barista with skill and talent, this is what count. Further I fully understand, that the people which invent this machine with skill and real craftmanship don't want, that every one could direct see (and perhaps copy) why this machine is so good. Cheers Ralf Hi,
in “Slayer – Some compare to other brands” Eric did say every thing, what I personal want for the perfect machine. This means for me, as simple as possible, less electronic, no gadgets and a machine as near as possible to a lever machine. (but with the positive characteristic of a pump driven machine )
The main target is the result in the cup done by a barista with skill and talent, this is what count.
Further I fully understand, that the people which invent this machine with skill and real craftmanship don’t want, that every one could direct see (and perhaps copy) why this machine is so good.
Cheers
Ralf

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